{"id":194313,"date":"2018-03-22T10:55:26","date_gmt":"2018-03-22T05:25:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.scconline.com\/blog\/?p=194313"},"modified":"2018-03-22T10:59:06","modified_gmt":"2018-03-22T05:29:06","slug":"aadhaar-hearing-day-20","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.scconline.com\/blog\/post\/2018\/03\/22\/aadhaar-hearing-day-20\/","title":{"rendered":"Aadhaar Hearing [Day 20]: AG begins submissions; Aadhaar CEO likely to give PPT presentation on security aspect of Aadhaar"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">After hearing the submissions of the Counsels appearing for the petitioners for 19 days, the\u00a05-judge bench of Dipak Misra, CJ and Dr. AK Sikri, AM Khanwilkar, Dr. DY Chandrachud and Ashok Bhushan, JJ began hearing the submissions of the Attorney General KK Venugopal on the 20th Day of the Aadhaar hearing.<\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: justify;\">Below are the highlights from the submissions of AG KK Venugopal on Day 20 of the Aadhaar hearing:<\/h3>\n<ul style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n<li>Various expert committees have examined Aadhaar, and other alternatives were also considered before Aadhaar was decided upon. Many countries have already implemented unique identity systems. Even World Bank approves of Aadhaar Scheme.\u00a0<em>(Cites &#8220;identifications for development&#8221; report of World Bank.)<\/em><\/li>\n<li>CEO of Aadhaar has a PowerPoint presentation explaining all technical and security aspects of Aadhaar. He will be able to answer all questions related to Aadhaar.<\/li>\n<li><strong>CJI<\/strong>: We want to hear the legal contentions first, especially on Privacy and anonymity. We also want to hear about virtual mass surveillance.\u00a0\u00a0In the name of security you can&#8217;t impose a stamping culture where everyone is stamped with an Aadhaar. Inspite of assurance of safety, your database is not entirely safe. I want the State to refute all these contentions made by the petitioners.<\/li>\n<li><strong>AG<\/strong>: After seeing the PowerPoint presentation, the State will be able to explain their legal contentions better. We also want to show a four minute video on security of Aadhaar. All doubts of duplication will be cleared through it.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Bench:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0We will discuss if we want to see the PowerPoint presentation.<\/li>\n<li><strong>AG<\/strong> (continuing with his arguments):\n<ul>\n<li>Huge money has been saved by giving benefits and subsidies via Aadhaar. Gap between rich and poor will reduce with use of Aadhaar.<\/li>\n<li>From 2009 to 2016 , Aadhaar was completely voluntary. But people still signed up for it. So question of coercion does not arise, at least until September 2016.<\/li>\n<li>Article 21 encompasses right to employment, education, shelter etc. Aadhaar act is helping in achieve all these rights for the people.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><strong>Sikri, J<\/strong>:\u00a0There&#8217;s a clash between right to life and right to privacy. People are getting excluded. There have been various affidavits filed proving the same.<\/li>\n<li><strong>AG<\/strong>:\u00a0NGOs are filing these affidavits. Not a single person has come forward and said that they suffered due to Aadhaar.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Chandrachud, J<\/strong>:\u00a0Economic and social guarantee is not antithesis to political guarantee. Can&#8217;t forgo of political liberty for the sake of economic and social justice.\u00a0People died during Bengal famine due to lack of information. During the famine in Maharashtra in 1970s per capita income went lower than Sudan but people did not die because information was not cut off.<\/li>\n<li><strong>AG:<\/strong>\u00a0Right of people to not die of hunger and have shelter prevails right to privacy.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Bhushan, J:<\/strong>\u00a0All these rights do not trump right to privacy. They coexist.<\/li>\n<li><strong>AG<\/strong>: Nobody was coerced to get Aadhaar. It was voluntary between 2009-16.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Chandrachud, J<\/strong>: There were no safeguards during that time. It came only when the act was passed. People did not contemplate giving up their personal data for commercial purposes.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Sikri, J<\/strong>: People who enrolled that time (not for benefits or subsidies) say there was no informed consent that time.<\/li>\n<li><strong>AG<\/strong>:\u00a0Aadhaar is facilitating Indian residents to get subsidies, benefits, scholarships etc. It&#8217;s an efficient, transparent delivery of services. It is in consonance with the directive principles of state policy. A handful of petitioners are challenging it.<\/li>\n<li><strong>AG<\/strong>: Aadhaar can help curb issues like money laundering, black money, etc.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Sikri, J<\/strong>:\u00a0How is Employees pension scheme covered under Section 7? It is a person&#8217;s right to get pension.<\/li>\n<li><strong>AG<\/strong>:\u00a0This was done to prevent fake Identity.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Chandrachud and Sikri, JJ<\/strong>:\u00a0How does a pensioner who lives abroad with his children get pension since he will not be able to produce his Aadhaar card in person?<\/li>\n<li><strong>AG<\/strong>:\u00a0Aadhaar is only required for residents.\u00a0There must be some provision in the pension act to give pension to an NRI. Such a person will not be governed by Aadhaar act.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Chandrachud, J:<\/strong> Pension accounts are individual accounts. No question of impersonation.\u00a0What if an old pensioner has dementia? His fingerprints might not work. He can&#8217;t keep running around banks for the purpose of authentication.<\/li>\n<li><strong>AG<\/strong>:\u00a0There are exceptions for individuals whose fingerprints and Iris scans won&#8217;t work. For eg. People suffering from leprosy.\u00a0Govt will not try to deprive someone of their rightful entitlement.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Chandrachud, J:<\/strong>\u00a0Pension doesn&#8217;t come under &#8220;subsidies, benefits and services&#8221; under section 7. It is an entitlement.<\/li>\n<li><strong>AG<\/strong>:\u00a0Pension is given out of the consolidated fund of India. Hence it&#8217;s covered.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Chandrachud, J:<\/strong>\u00a0 We should acknowledge that there&#8217;s a problem of financial exclusion in our country. Cabinet secretary had agreed. To say that someone has not come to court therefore there&#8217;s no exclusion is wrong.<\/li>\n<li><strong>AG<\/strong>:\n<ul>\n<li>Mahatma Gandhi said that the world has enough for everyone&#8217;s needs but not everyone&#8217;s greed. Poverty is a huge problem and Aadhaar will be a step to solve it.\u00a0There are 300 million poor people in India who deserve to live a life of dignity.\u00a0 Please weigh the balance and see if these people want privacy or a life of dignity.<\/li>\n<li>Aadhaar act also provides exceptions and backup authentication in various regulations during contingencies like power cut, Network connectivity, Biometrics not working etc.<\/li>\n<li>Aadhaar&#8217;s results will show in a few years. We&#8217;ve already fixed problems like misappropriation, multiple identities. We are working towards making this project more effective.<\/li>\n<li>Official identification is more than a convenience. It is a fundamental human right. It helps in economic development, participation in electoral process, and helps the govt in providing benefits to the people. It is a key enabler of other sustainable development goals.<\/li>\n<li>Universal digital identity is becoming important around the world. The World Bank recently launched &#8220;identification for development&#8221; report.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><strong>Sikri, J<\/strong>:\u00a0We agree that unique identification is important. But why not use a less intrusive means. Why is Aadhaar data stored in a centralized database over a long period of time? There&#8217;s a risk of metadata. Doctrine of proportionaliy is important here.\u00a0In Singapore, people are supposed to have a unique identity. But that data is not stored with the government.<\/li>\n<li><strong>AG<\/strong>:\u00a0Smart card was considered but it&#8217;ll not work in the Indian context.\u00a0Duplication and aggregation of data is impossible with Aadhaar. Metadata is not stored by CIDR.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Chandrachud, J<\/strong>:\u00a0But authentication records are stored.<\/li>\n<li><strong>AG:<\/strong> Let us give a power point presentation.<\/li>\n<li><strong>CJI<\/strong>: We&#8217;ll let you know.\u00a0\u00a0We would like to have the presentation in word format.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Senior Advocate KV Vishwanathan<\/strong> (For petitioners):\u00a0If there&#8217;s a presentation, then petitioners should be given a chance to cross examine.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Chandrachud, J<\/strong>: Questions can be given to the Bench.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>To read the highlights from submissions of Senior Advocates Meenakshi Arora, Sajan\u00a0Poovayya, CU SIngh, Sanjay Hegde and Counsel Jayna Kothari, click <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.scconline.com\/post\/2018\/03\/21\/aadhaar-hearing-day-19-counsels-appearing-for-petitioners-conclude-their-submissions\/\">here<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>To read the highlights from submissions of Senior Advocates\u00a0KV Viswanathan and Anand Grover, click\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.scconline.com\/post\/2018\/03\/17\/aadhaar-hearing-day-17-and-18-one-cannot-necessarily-have-a-unique-identity-fingerprints-can-be-duplicated-arvind-grover\/\">here<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>To read the highlights from Senior Advocate Arvind Datar\u2019s submissions, click\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.scconline.com\/post\/2018\/03\/07\/aadhaar-hearing-day-15-aadhaar-not-mandatory-neet-india-entrance-exams-sc-passes-interim-order\/\">here,<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.scconline.com\/post\/2018\/03\/06\/aadhaar-hearing-day-14-aadhaar-entitlement-like-passport-may-may-not-obtain-arvind-datar\/\">here\u00a0<\/a>and\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.scconline.com\/post\/2018\/03\/13\/aadhaar-hearing-day-16-deadline-linking-aadhaar-extended-till-final-disposal-matter-sc\/\">here<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>To read the highlights from Senior Advocate Gopal Subramanium\u2019s submissions, click\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.scconline.com\/post\/2018\/02\/23\/aadhaar-hearing-day-13-case-authentication-fails-entitlements-may-annulled-resulting-permanent-disablement-gopal-subramanium\/\">here<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.scconline.com\/post\/2018\/02\/20\/aadhaar-hearing-day-11-state-treating-people-like-flock-sheep-gopal-subramanium\/\">here<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.scconline.com\/post\/2018\/02\/22\/aadhaar-hearing-day-12-minimal-regulatory-identification-fine-identification-availing-rights-not-gopal-subramanium\/\">here<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>To read the highlights from Senior Advocate Kapil Sibal\u2019s arguments, click\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.scconline.com\/post\/2018\/02\/08\/aadhaar-hearing-day-8\/\">here,<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.scconline.com\/post\/2018\/02\/08\/aadhaar-hearing-day-9\/\">here\u00a0<\/a>and\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.scconline.com\/post\/2018\/02\/14\/aadhaar-hearing-day-10-primary-status-citizen-not-aadhaar-card-holder-kapil-sibal\/\">here<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>Looking for the detailed submissions of Senior Advocate Shyam Divan? Read the highlights from\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.scconline.com\/post\/2018\/01\/17\/aadhaar-hearing-commences-5-judge-constitution-bench-read-highlights\/\">Day 1<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.scconline.com\/post\/2018\/01\/18\/aadhaar-hearing-day-2-sr-adv-shyam-divan-shows-sc-aadhaar-scheme-lacks-integrity\/\">Day 2,<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.scconline.com\/post\/2018\/01\/23\/aadhaar-hearing-day-2-present-aadhaar-act-imposes-complete-surveillance-citizens-shyam-divan\/\">Day 3,\u00a0<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.scconline.com\/post\/2018\/01\/24\/aadhaar-hearing-day-4-need-avoid-big-brother-watching-situation-shyam-divan-surveillance\/\">Day 4<\/a>\u00a0,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.scconline.com\/post\/2018\/01\/31\/aadhaar-hearing-day-5-detailed-discussion-bench-shyam-divan-issue-surveillance\/\">Day 5,<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.scconline.com\/post\/2018\/02\/02\/aadhaar-hearing-day-6-shyam-divan-argues-issues-identity-savings-conclude-submissions-next-date\/\">Day 6<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.scconline.com\/post\/2018\/02\/07\/aadhaar-hearing-day-7-shyam-divan-concludes-submissions-kapil-sibal-argues-abuse-power\/\">Day 7<\/a>\u00a0of the hearing.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>Source:\u00a0\u00a0twitter.com\/SFLCin<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>After hearing the submissions of the Counsels appearing for the petitioners for 19 days, the\u00a05-judge bench of Dipak Misra, CJ and Dr. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":121,"featured_media":154914,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1188,2],"tags":[17581,29608,16161,5161,11171],"class_list":["post-194313","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-hot_off_the_press","category-news","tag-aadhaar","tag-attorney-general","tag-data-protection","tag-pension-scheme","tag-privacy"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v26.4 (Yoast SEO v26.4) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Aadhaar Hearing [Day 20]: AG begins submissions; Aadhaar CEO likely to give PPT presentation on security aspect of Aadhaar | SCC Times<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"CEO of Aadhaar has a PowerPoint presentation explaining all technical and security aspects of Aadhaar. 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